The booger

[WilmoTheBear]

This thread is not about boogers.  It's about the lawsuit, but I
called it the booger so that if Greg skims the forum, he'll possibly
pass over it thinking it's just some regular old show thread about
topics on the show.  Brian if you want me to delete this thread so that
Greg can't see it and can't prepare for what you have may against him,
let me know and I'll delete it. 

Or just delete it yourself.
 
In this thread, we post ideas that Brian can run by his lawyer.  If
it's a possibly valid point, I'll edit it into the first post.

Everyone will work together to find audio evidence of each point
that is brought up.  

Once audio evidence is found for a clip, I'll
edit this post to have the audio evidence underneath the point.
 
- You were intoxicated by alcohol when Greg tried to get you to sign
the contract.  You were clearly (possibly, he could argue that he
didn't know because you don't have video proof that you were drinking
and he saw) intoxicated because the vodka was there and half empty.  He
in reality saw you drinking.  Someone in the chat also said he
encouraged you to drink, which I don't remember because I wasn't there
for the beginning of the show live.  If we have audio of him trying to
get you to drink before signing, that's incriminiating in and of
itself, but also is proof that there was alcohol in the room and he
knew about it.  (Another small note that I've just realized, he filled
out all the information on the name-change contract for you, including
the reason which was "dislike of family", so he tried to get you to lie
on a legal document.)
 
- On the day of the show where Brian reveals that he is the new
beneficiary, I remember Brian saying something along the lines of "Greg
did you happen to see any papers laying around when you went to help
your dad after he fell?"  Which implies that Brian knew the papers were
possibly written before he fell.  That's only "possible" because even
if that proved the papers were there, he still could have actually
signed them after taking the Vicodin and becoming intoxicated.  So
unless Greg can prove that the papers were signed any time after Brian
showed up, there is no concrete proof of when the papers were
written/signed after Brian showed up and there is no proof that Brian
coerced Greg sr.  Unless Brian actually did, and Greg sr. tells Greg
that. Though his memory of the event may not be valid. 
Vicodin may cause confusion, and I'm not sure if that would affect
his memory, I'm in the process of researching that.
 
- Gregs dad caused the emotional stress, not Brian.  Greg is saying
that Brian did, because Brian coerced Greg Sr while he was under the
influence.  So if he wasn't intoxicated when he wrote/signed the papers
(which the last point may possibly prove), it is Greg Sr. who caused
the emotional pain and not Brian.
 
- Greg is also suing you for punitive damages, which are the hotel
costs. He stayed at a hotel on his own accord.  You didn't tell him to leave,
and you actually tried to convince him to stay.
 
 
Those are the main arguments that I think are important.  Now here are
some smaller things that may possibly be useful:
 
- The mystery box is may possibly be a valid contract.  It's only a
question mark so it wouldn't be valid just on the text alone, but it
may be a valid contract if there is recording of Greg, Bryan and Brian
aggreeing to what the question mark stands for and saying they all
signed it.
 
- Greg lied about the reason that he changed his name.  He said it was
because of not liking his family just so that he could change his name
as a joke for the show, and he may have admitted that on a show.
 
- Greg said he can copy is dad's signature perfectly.  Someone in the
chat said he said that, and I remember him saying that.  If he admitted
that he forged certain documents on air, you could tell him that you'll
give that information out unless he doesn't drop the case.  This may be
black mail, but so is asking you to go through the trouble of changing
your name for the case to be dropped.
 
 
EVERYONE'S HOMEWORK:
 
Listen to these episodes to find incriminating evidence against Greg,
and more specifically the supporting audio evidence for each of these
points.  Cut them from the show and post them here, or just post when
in the show they say whatever they say so that someone else can cut it
out.
 
Episode 256 (The return of the mystery box.  Listen to this to see if
they talk about agreeing to the contract of the mystery box.)
 
Episode 259 (The episode where Greg reveals that he has changed his
name.  Listen to this to see if he talks about how he lied about the
reason for changing his name.)
 
Episode 260 (This is the beneficiary episode.  Use this for the second
and third arguments that I explained.)
 
Episode 261 (Just listen to see if Greg says anything incriminating in
general.  I don't know what would be in this episode, but we should
listen to every single episode after the Greg name changing one just in
case.)
 
Episode 262 (This episode isn't released yet, but once it is you should
listen through for evidence of the first point about Brian being
intoxicated.)
 
Episode 125 (The original mystery box episode, see what they agree to.)
 
Episode 127 (The second mystery box.  Again, see what they agree to.)
 
And just in general, when you listen to WMR try and keep an eye out for
any useful information.  If anyone remembers when he said that he
learned to fake his Dad's signature, try and find that.

[WilmoTheBear]

Original love story novel by deco.

He was being a bit shy about posting it so i had the honor of doing the deed.

Enjoy.

Or don't.

[Deco]

Okay well as long as it's posted now then everyone, you know what to do.  Find whatever audio evidence you can find of each of those points

[Hmmm....]

I'm 20 episodes behind, care to fill me in in what's happening?

[Deco]

I'm 20 episodes behind, care to fill me in in what's happening?

Greg legally changed his name to Brien Brian Bryan, so Brian talked to his dad and got him to make Brian the beneficiary to his life insurance, instead of Greg (Now Brien).  Brian would change it back if Greg changed his name back.  Greg is now suing Brian, claiming that Brian coerced his Dad into signing the contract while he was intoxicated.  Because that day, his Dad fell and called Greg to come pick him up before telling him to leave.  After that, he took Vicodin since he was in pain.  Then Brian came and filmed himself and Greg Sr. (Greg's dad) talking about how Brian is the new beneficiary.  I made this thread about it but didn't post it because I didn't know if Brian wanted it here, then Wilmo got me to email what the thread would have said to him and then decided to post it himself.

What we don't know, is when Greg Sr. signed it.  He could have signed it before he fell/took the Vicodin.  If he did that, then Greg is wrong and Brian is still the beneficiary.  Or he could have signed it after he took the Vicodin, but before Brian showed up.  That would mean the contract is void, but Greg is wrong about Brian coercing Greg Sr. because he wasn't there.  Or he could have signed it after Brian showed up.  Then Greg has a case, but if Brian honestly didn't coerce him and Greg Sr. admits that Brian didn't try to convince him to do it while he was intoxicated, then Brian may be able to fight against the coercing charge.  Because I mean, if Greg Sr. wrote up the papers himself (Which I might be wrong about.  I think he did.) he probably already made up his mind and didn't need Brian to coerce him.  


Edit: Listening to 261 and just realized, it wasn't Brian who said "Greg do you remember what was on the table when you were with your dad?" it was Greg who said that to Brian.  At 17:06 Greg says it.  Alright, now we have no idea at all when the papers were written or signed.

[Miles]

The box needs to have rules to it! Number one should be no more legal shit. Jesus christ, three grown men are destroying their relationships over an idea!

I also hope Brian becomes the better man and offers up a counter offer for Greg by switching the beneficiaries back to Greg with Mr. Arvegian, if Greg drops the charges.

Not sure if any of that was mentioned above because I already know what happened and I don't care to read all that text.

[Deco]

The box needs to have rules to it! Number one should be no more legal shit. Jesus christ, three grown men are destroying their relationships over an idea!

I also hope Brian becomes the better man and offers up a counter offer for Greg by switching the beneficiaries back to Greg with Mr. Arvegian, if Greg drops the charges.

Not sure if any of that was mentioned above because I already know what happened and I don't care to read all that text.

Well Brian already said on the beneficiary show that he'd change it back, if Greg changes his name.  So he can't really offer the same thing again after Greg already said no to it.  Also, Greg said he'd drop the charges if Brian changed his name to Greg.

And yeah this legal stuff is really stupid.  Unless Greg's dad explicitly told him that Brian coerced him to sign it while intoxicated, there's no way that Greg really believes that.  He's clearly just mad about Brian going way too far, and trying to get back at him by suing him on a technicality.  He really should have just told Brian face to face that it was too far, and asked him to apologize and change it back.

[Stronghold]

Since this whole thread is tl;dr, the new show of 262 - Is Brien suing Brian?

[Nukkake]

Is Brien suing Brian?

Yep.

[brad159357]

I have all day tomorrow, I'll get on it and clip the evidence.

Edit: nice job on the title wilmo, I almost skipped past it because it seemed like shit.

[WilmoTheBear]

I have all day tomorrow, I'll get on it and clip the evidence.

Edit: nice job on the title wilmo, I almost skipped past it because it seemed like shit.

Jesus Christ man.

"Original love story novel by deco."

WRITTEN BY DECO, yes even the title, i just posted this because he was being a floppy vagina about it.

I wish this stupid fucking Brian vs Greg would end so the mystery box i learned to love would come back.

Now it's just this stupid paper war crap.

[Deco]

Here are some clips


http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/260-unintelligible
Greg says something that may be important, but I can't tell what it is.  Brian seemed like he was concerned with what he said and might have an idea of what he said, and he also said that he'd listen back to the audio so he could hear it.  Try and figure out what he says

http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/262-vodka-nose
Greg is there while the guys talk about the vodka in the room, which shows that Greg knew that there was alcohol in the room.  (Btw whoever told me that Greg on mic told Brian to drink, I couldn't find that anywhere.  So he might have, but I didn't hear it.)

http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/262-coercing-brian
Greg coerces an intoxicated Brian into lying on a legal contract.  It's lying because Greg filled out the whole form for him and made the reason for name change "Dislike of family."

http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/260-feeding-things
Brian jokes that he fed Greg's dad to say things and then laughs, Greg is serious and asks if Brian just admitted to feeding him things, and Brian says no.  This is just in case Greg tries to claim that Brian admitted to feeding/coercing his dad into saying things/signing the paper.

http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/260-cause-i-went-over-there
On first listen this sounds like Brian is saying that he knew Greg's dad fell/was on vicodin, which is why he went over there.  Greg may possibly use this as evidence, but if you listen closer Brian says at the end "Which is why I knew, cause I went over there."  which pretty much means "Which is why I knew that he fell when Greg brought up that he fell, because I was over there."

So that one might not  matter, but I misheard it at first and thought it was incriminating of Brian.  So might as well just post it just in case Greg thought that and didn't catch his mistake.

http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/260-kill-sleep
Brian and Bryan talking about how they're afraid about what Greg's going to do to them over night.  Which implies that they assume Greg is going to stay at the house.  This should help show that Brian didn't kick Greg out, since Greg is trying to sue Brian over the hotel costs.

http://soundcloud.com/deco1546/260-come-back
Brian trying to get Greg to not leave and come back, more proof that Greg left on his own

[Hasher]

For the first one, it sounds like "I'll be returning with a malevolence of my fucking own"

[Batty]

I like how Greg foreshadows the event throughout the show. "We've been best friends for years Brian"

[Deco]

Mike D said this in the private Red Bar group.  Pretty ambiguous, but seems like they might have worked some stuff out.